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Postby TheRationalizer » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:43 am

"1000 years of what you count"

You calculate this as 12000 months. Can you tell me how many days there are in 1000 years?
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Re: Number of days

Postby Raef Fanous » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:47 am

Those people back then measured the distances neither in kilometers nor in miles but rather by how much time they needed to walk. For example, a village two days away meant a distance equivalent to walking for two days; ten days away meant a distance equivalent to walking for ten days... However in this verse the Quran specifies 1000 years of what they counted (not what they walked). Those people back then followed the lunar calendar and counted 12 lunar months each year. These months are related to the moon and not related to the sun. Hence in 1 day the angels will travel a distance of 1000 years of what they counted (the moon). Since this verse is referring to distance, then God is saying that angels travel in one day the same distance that the moon travels in 12000 lunar orbits. Outside gravitational fields this speed turned out to be the known speed of light.
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Re: Number of days

Postby TheRationalizer » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:52 am

You replied, but you did not answer :)

How many days are there in 1000 years?
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Re: Number of days

Postby Raef Fanous » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:59 am

TheRationalizer wrote:You replied, but you did not answer :)

How many days are there in 1000 years?


They counted the lunar calendar so "The distance of 1000 years of what you count" to them is the distance of 12000 lunar orbits.
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Re: Number of days

Postby TheRationalizer » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:57 pm

It said "1000 years" - how many days are there in 1000 years?
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Re: Number of days

Postby Raef Fanous » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:09 pm

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[Quran 32.5] (Allah) Rules the cosmic affair from the heavens to the Earth. Then this affair travels to Him a distance in one day, at a measure of one thousand years of what you count.

"Araj" means a man with a lame leg; "Yaruj" means a man stepping. This verse particularly says "Yaruj" which means that angels are taking steps: indicating motion of angels. Their steps in one day are equivalent to 1000 years of what the Arabs counted, that is, 12000 lunar orbits. If you insist that "Yaruj" indicates TIME then prove it.
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Re: Number of days

Postby TheRationalizer » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:48 pm

I repeat, how many days are there in 1000 years?
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Re: Number of days

Postby Raef Fanous » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:53 pm

TheRationalizer wrote:I repeat, how many days are there in 1000 years?

You insist that "Yaruj" means TIME! Then prove it.
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Re: Number of days

Postby TheRationalizer » Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:58 am

I haven't insisted anything, I have just asked a question (repeatedly, without answer.)

How many days are there in 1,000 years? Why do you refuse to answer?
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Re: Number of days

Postby Raef Fanous » Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:47 am

TheRationalizer wrote:I haven't insisted anything, I have just asked a question (repeatedly, without answer.)

How many days are there in 1,000 years? Why do you refuse to answer?

Because you are taking the verse out of context. This verse says that angels travel in one day the same distance the moon covers in 1000 lunar years.
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